S2 Ep 7: Dog Whistles to Day O, it's all frequency!

In this episode, Tammy and Jenn rewind and to a previous episode and look at the words frequency and vibration with a slightly different lens. 

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Jenn: Hey, everybody. I'm Jenn. 

Tammy: And I'm Tammy. 

Jenn: And they call us Woo!

Jenn: Welcome back, everybody. Today, we are going to be revisiting something that we talked about a while ago because Tammy was feeling like she has a better understanding of a few things. So today we're going to talk a little bit more about words and words that we talked about before being overused or we were hearing them more in the mainstream. And so Tammy specifically brought up to me the words vibration and frequency. So, Tammy, tell us a little bit more about what's up and why you decided that we should talk about this today. 

Tammy: Yeah. So I think there's always a, there's always opportunity to revisit the ways that we understand things now and kind of see how far we've come. Right? So this kept popping into my head where I'm like, It's really kind of fascinating that as I have shifted a lot over the last year or so and especially more recently, some of the things that maybe weren't super clear to me before have just a different tone to them now. So specifically, when I was thinking about vibration and frequency, I was hearing those words everywhere. And sometimes, at the time it sounded a little bit like a dog whistle type thing where like either people were like calling in others who understood that or calling in what they wanted people to think they were, if that makes sense. Like they're using those words because they're like, Look at me, I'm super new agey or in my mind it was like the words made sense, but I don't know that I fully grasped them or the true depths of their meaning. So sometimes I think it was also a misunderstanding on my part too, right where I was like, 

Jenn: Yeah

Tammy: it feels like they're using this word a lot. Why do they need to keep using this word? 

Jenn: Yeah

Tammy: but then as things have changed and I've experienced more clearly different levels of vibration and experience different frequencies, all of a sudden I was like, this makes so much more sense now. So maybe those words stood out to me before sometimes because it was something I needed to explore. Maybe it was just part of a misunderstanding. And I still think that there's times that people use those words as kind of like, like catch phrases and maybe they don't fully understand their meaning either, but that's okay. I mean, obviously we're all at different levels of understanding and it doesn't make one right or one wrong. It's just, you know, people maybe are using them to try to understand the experience more to, you know. 

Jenn: Yeah

Tammy: Maybe? but I would say the word vibration has changed a lot in 

Jenn: Okay. 

Tammy: for me. And what like when I hear people use the word, it makes more sense to me what they're saying. It, it comes out of my mouth a lot more frequently because sometimes I realize that there's not a really there's not a lot of other clear ways to explain what I'm trying to say, but also it makes it a little more clear to me when it's just kind of being used as just like a throwaway word versus literally having the vibration and frequency in it. 

Jenn: Yup. 

Tammy: Does that make sense? 

Jenn: Yeah, it does. I, I kind of, I got a little bit sidetracked in my brain because you said the word dog whistle in my head immediately went, “uuuurrrrt” like a little dog. 

Tammy: I saw that. 

Jenn: And I was like, hehehe don’t do it and I couldn't help it. So even the word has a frequency to it that made me do that lovely thing. 

Tammy: You perked up your ears.

Jenn: I did, it was like “uuurrrtt”. No, that makes complete sense to me. I do still think that there are some people who use those words because they are catch phrases and they're trying to get the attention of people who are in that realm of thinking. But no, it, it does make sense. Our our understanding of words and our understanding of the meanings of words changes. And as those things change the way that we use those words and the way we interact with those words, of course, is going to change as well. 

Tammy: It’s like the vibration of “vibration” changed for me. And 

Jenn: yeah

Tammy: it's really cool that the it just is. It's a little bit different now. And it's interesting, too, because even the way that I view the people that are sometimes using it just to maybe draw in people who might, you know, like that word or it, you know, symbolizes something kind of like New Agey or woo for them, even if they don't fully understand it It's like, okay, well, maybe they're just really curious about it and that's something even if they don't know what they're doing, they're drawing more of that in to their life because they have this deep desire to know more about it, you know? 

Jenn: Yeah. 

Tammy: Even if it doesn't always appear that way to other people, there's usually a good reason that people are obsessed with the thing, even if they don't really understand it. 

Jenn: well. And sometimes people don't admit that they're obsessed with something, like they're very drawn to it, but they're like, I can't. I can't go there. 

Tammy: That's kind of like jokes, right? Like, people always say that if you keep joking about the same thing. There's probably some truth to it. Yeah, 

Jenn: maybe. 

Tammy: Yeah, I would absolutely agree with that. And it's interesting now that I've experienced, with clarity, I should say, because I think everyone does experience this, but experience with clarity and understanding of what was happening. Being able to raise my vibration in order to get information or have things come through me or whatever, it's like you can understand it more clearly once you've experienced it. For me, I'm a very tactile, physical person, so feeling things in my body all of a sudden it's like the rest of me is like, OH, this makes so much more sense now.

Jenn: Yeah. Yeah. 

Tammy: So it's it's really cool to kind of revisit that. And I think it's always a good idea for us to especially being in the realm we're in, right, where sometimes people might hear us talk and be like they know a lot of stuff about this or, you know, sometimes people see others who are talking about this kind of stuff as being like exceptionally wise or whatever. And it's not so much that it's like we're all learning and experiencing things and it's fun sometimes to look back and go, Oh, this is really cool. I understand this more now. And also, even if I didn't fully understand it before, it wasn't like either periods I was wrong. That's just where I was at in my life at that time. 

Jenn: Yeah, Yeah. You can't start. You can't start in 12th grade when you're a kindergartner, 

Tammy: right? 

Jenn: It just doesn't work. Like that would be silliness. 

Tammy: Right. It's something about looking back to the wisdom of the kindergartner, too, and being like, Yeah, you knew some stuff, kid. But now I understand more how all this fits together. 

Jenn: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sitting here and I have my cacao, and I was recognizing the vibration of the cacao is super opening to the heart. And sometimes if I drink my cocoa too fast, my heart opens too quickly. And then my heart rate goes up. So then I'm like, Weeee. And so I'm I'm a little bit more open hearted and my heart rate is a little bit fast right now. So I'm like, okay, take a deep breath. 

Tammy: Are you having Hot flashes? 

Jenn: I'm not having a hot flash. I'm just recognizing that my heart rate went up, which happens sometimes if I drink my cacoa too fast. So I'm going to set my cacao down and let that rest for just a little bit. 

Tammy: I sometimes mix it with coffee like we had been saying before, which is totally will like knock you down. Well, I shouldn't say that. It will probably pick you up too high, if you 

Jenn: Those are both very powerful medicines. 

Tammy: Yes, it is kind of fun though, honestly. Like I'm just feeling extra chipper right now. And I think part of it is I had a really awesome hypnosis session. I probably mentioned this, but I went through, I'm finishing up a second round of hypnosis, which is largely responsible for helping me have this huge shift and transition that I've had and today was just like this really joyful, like I just left feeling really good and joyful. So I feel like the cacao is just like amping it up just a little bit more. But I have this urge to like giggle and I'm like, That's not a bad thing. 

Jenn: It's because we were talking about your creepy smile meditation. That's what it is. 

Tammy: It wasn’t creepy. But yes, I was telling Jenn before we started recording that I was doing this meditation that it's the smile meditation where you're you're supposed to, it walks you through it, but you smile and you need to like, feel the experience of what it feels like to smile. And then you're kind of putting it out there in the world. And she had this very interesting image of me just sitting there with like a like, garish smile, 

Jenn: creepy 

Tammy: plastered across my face, which, who knows? I might have looked like that, but it worked so well that I ended up, like, laughing for a while and I couldn't stop laughing.

But it felt really good. It was like a good belly laugh. Have you ever seen a videos of that laughing yoga? 

Jenn: Yes. I actually used to have a practitioner that I knew that did that and we were going to set up some of those at my old location, some classes of that. So I had actually participated in some with another practitioner and I get myself giggling anyway, the second I start thinking about laughing, I'm like, hehehehe.And then I start laughing. So I'm ridiculous in those situations a lot of the time. 

Tammy: Can you imagine adding that with cacao? 

Jenn: No. 

Tammy: Might be worth trying sometimes, but 

Jenn: maybe

Tammy: We’ll all get sore stomachs and faces after that. 

Jenn: Well, I get giggly. Okay, so I'm that person. I'm that person, in a meditation where if I start going too deep into my meditation or if something weird happens in my meditation and my body starts to feel weird, I get giggly and then I start laughing during meditation. It has happened a lot in my lifetime where I've just been like, hehehe. And then I'm like, my gosh, I'm ridiculous. And I'm sitting next to all these people who are super calm and peaceful and I'm like, laughing hysterically. Yeah. 

Tammy: I mean, there's really no wrong way for it to come out of you, but it is it partly like awkward laughter, too, where once you start, like you're aware of the awkwardness and then it makes you laugh harder?

Jenn: I'm ready at that point before I realize that it's awkward. I'm already laughing hysterically and can't stop. And so, yeah, 

Tammy: it reminds me. 

Jenn: It's kind of funny. 

Tammy: My sister, when we'd get each other going in church and then of course, smile and be like, shush. And then you can't stop. At that point. It just gets funnier and funnier and you just can't stop yourself.

Jenn: Yes, I have been also in movies where something terrible happens in the movie and they like make some type of weird noise or something. I have a friend of mine who is also like this, so when we'd go to movies together that were supposed to be serious, everybody else would be like crying in the movie and we would bust out laughing because awkward moment laughter is a thing.

Tammy: But hey, I do know that laughter is a high vibration mood. So, you know, 

Jenn: we were just placed there to help shift the crying energy, add a little bit of brevity and lightness into the air. Or awkwardness, 

Tammy: right? 

Jenn: Yeah. 

Tammy: Well, I think it's probably a good thing that I have been wanting to explore that a little more. And maybe there's some ways that the people who are listening would want to explore it a little bit too, because sometimes I think understanding some of that a little more like what do these words actually mean? And trying to just ask your inner guidance even for clarity on what they actually mean can also help you be able to identify the things that don't actually feel like they're living up to the, the honoring the word. I guess you could say. You know what I mean? Like, if you are like, I've I've seen the word vibration used for different foods, which absolutely do carry different vibrations. But then, like sometimes pivoting into like a kind of like a sales type thing with it. And there is nothing wrong with selling high vibration food but using it as like a catch phrase, you would be able to actually discern a little bit better. Like, is this actually real? Like if you're reading it and you're like, something seems off there might be a reason for that versus like, 

Jenn: Yeah

Tammy: oh that totally makes sense. Because 

Jenn: yeah

Tammy: the word is actually vibrating the way it should and at the frequency that it should. 

Jenn: it's like, all the heart healthy labels that have been put on things now and then you look at the heart healthy foods and you're like, I don't think that's really heart healthy if you're eating that on a regular basis.

Tammy: What was I looking at the other day? Oh my Goodness. Okay, so yoohoo somehow came up and we were like, Man, do you remember yoohoo? And I looked it up because I was trying to remember. I never drank it when I was a kid, and neither did he. And I was like, I think it's just chocolate milk, if I remember right. So I looked it up and I looked at the ingredients and it was like water, corn syrup. And then like all these other sugar was in it basically like three or four times. 

Jenn: Yeah. 

Tammy: And I'm looking at it like, Wow, no, I understand. Now, my mom was totally into health stuff, so, like, she would never have given me that. But the funny thing is, on the label, it was also like, we're chock full of vitamins. And then it was like, what was it like a high calcium food? Or like there was all these, like nutrition labels on it And like, reviews are people like, this is so much better for you than chocolate milk. And I'm like, Maybe. But is it though? 

Jenn: Depends on how you're understanding the meaning of that word. 

Tammy: I mean, fragments are good, but like also okay, 

Jenn: yeah, Yeah. Well, it's kind of the same thing as what you were talking about with the words that you're using and our understanding of them. Like, we understand them a certain way when we're at the beginning of a specific journey. And then as we move along, like if we look at nutritional labels, we'll understand okay, these specific foods, these specific ingredients aren't necessarily the most helpful things for us. But yes, we are still getting minerals and vitamins from these things. And like there's just a different understanding that happens. 

Tammy: It is. 

Jenn: And so it's kind of the same thing that you were saying earlier, just different form. Different form. 

Tammy: Well, I think you get clarity over time, too, as you start to understand stuff a little more like even going back to the food piece of it. There was a point in time where I thought some of this was like so ridiculously complicated, right? Like one week, these foods are good for you and these are bad. One week these foods are good for you. These are bad and I was just like, it, It's just overwhelming. But the funny thing is, like I've noticed as I've continued to elevate my understanding and my connection, things like I got through that phase of just like too much information where things start to get easier at that point where you're like, Well, I know internally that this makes sense to me and this doesn't. Have I been surprised sometimes? Absolutely. Where I'm like, this is highest and best? cool. I, that I wouldn't have expected that. And then other times I'm like, yeah, that totally makes sense. Like that, my body's never like that. I just pretended that it did. 

Jenn: Well, ice cream? 

Tammy: But you know, the funny thing too, is sometimes it changes day to day. But it's kind of fascinating to me, the things that make sense to me about vibration now and how good being in a space of higher vibration feels. But also there is a reason for some of the lower vibrations and the juxtaposition of the two. So it's like not saying like everything, you know, you need to totally live in high vibration all the time in the sense of, as you know, humans having a human experience. You're going to have variations of that. But, it's makes, it makes things a little more clear. And it's kind of funny talking about like the frequency part of this, too. I don't know if anybody else has ever looked up like the different frequency, like playlists you can have on YouTube and stuff like that. Like you, you know, they have millions of them. Eight, eight, eight, seven, seven, seven. But so I've been listening to a lot of that stuff. It's there's certain ones that I really enjoy when I'm working or if I'm trying to connect or whatever, and I must be listening to them a lot because the other day I walked into the living room and my husband was listening to a song and I was like, oh, I knew there was a reason that was in my head. Were you playing that earlier? And he's like, Yeah. And he's like, Here's an impression of the music you've been listening to lately. Hhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh (lower pitched), I started laughing like, You're not wrong. 

Jenn: I would have been like, No, it's more like, Hhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa (higher pitched noise) 

Tammy: Yeah, he did that at one point too where he elevated the octaves a little bit. I'm like, Whatever, man it works for me. My cat loves it, comes in there and listens every time I have it playing somewhere. He thinks it's great. 

Jenn: Yeah. You know, that's funny, because when I, when I lived a long time ago in a different house, I had one room in my house that was set up as my meditation and massage room. And every night I would go in there and I would turn on my meditation music and I would lay in the middle of the floor and meditate. And my one cat, who, she is known as the mean cat. she's not a mean cat, but most children and 

Tammy: She’s the misunderstood cat. 

Jenn: yes, most children in my life call her the mean cat and have since she was a little kitty because she gets a little bit aggressive. But for whatever reason, her thing, when she was young, she would come into the meditation room and she would lay on me when I was doing the meditation, she wouldn't leave with me any other time. Now she does all the time, but when she was little, she was, she was my husband's cat. She was not my cat, but she would come and lay with me. And the second that the meditation music would shut off, she'd be like, And I'm done. And she would leave. But if she saw me go in there, she would follow me in there, wait till I lay down, and she would lay with me and meditate with me. And a lot of it was frequency work. So there was a lot of toning, there was a lot of sound healing, just a lot of frequency stuff. And she would just soak it all in, just lay there with me and meditate. And now, now she doesn't lay with me as much when I'm meditating, but if I turn on frequency stuff, she's usually like, Where is it? What's going on? Like both of my cats, if the drums come out or if the sound bowls come out, both of them are like, I know what this is. 

Tammy: That's also some animals are so interesting that way because, excuse me, animals and kids because they don't have that like preset judgment or need to figure out. They just go with what feels good. The funny thing is, the first time I started playing the eight, eight, eight frequency, which I do play that one a lot. My husband and daughter came home from work and I had like the incense going, which we all love. And I had that going and everything, and I think I was just reading. But they came home and they're both like, oh what's this? And like 2 minutes later they're both laying on the floor, sleeping. Well, apparently it relaxed everybody today, my whole family just laid everywhere in the living room

Jenn: Is the eight, eight, eight frequency one that goes “Hhhhhhhuuuuuhhhhh”, Tammy, I'm teasing you. That wasn’t a serious question. 

Tammy: Maybe a little higher. Yeah, it's. Well, I was kind of chuckling the other day, too, because sometimes I play it in session with clients and, you know, playlists are sometimes they throw a bunch of other stuff in there, too. And I was playing one on Spotify, and it started to get really weird towards the end where sometimes it just sounded like radio fuzz, which I think, 

Jenn: Yesss. 

Tammy: it was supposed to be like Ocean's sounds with that, but it would just go from like a couple of minutes to just like (Static noise), and we were like oh, whatever. And we're all like, what? And then it would go back to something pleasant again and then it would do that again. We just thought it was funny. I was like, Did you bring something in the room with you? They’d be like I don’t know. 

Jenn: it's like the movie White Noise. Is that what it was called? where like you would play white noise and then something would come and get you, like, 

Tammy: Yeah, thankfully nothing came and got us. It is kind of funny sometimes because I do think, you know, people just throw stuff on playlists, which is fine. 

Jenn: Yeah, 

Tammy: it is kind of fun to listen to some of that sometimes and see the variation though, because you can get some really cool playlists where they play like nature sounds with it and stuff too, that are really pretty soothing. 

Jenn: But my gosh, the first time I decided to venture into like nature sounds during massage session, I put on this CD. I listened to the first half of the CD to make sure there wasn't anything weird on it. I didn't listen to the last half of the CD before the first time I played it. 

Tammy: That’s where all the weird stuff was. 

Jenn: This was back when there was CDs. Yes. So like, we get to like the second half of the, the CD and all of a sudden the lovely, like, ocean noises and dolphins and all of those things. There's a barge, like just all of a sudden there's like, “OOOOOoooooo” like this weird barge noise. And I'm like, Yeah, like, that's not relaxing. It's not relaxing at all. Like, it wasn't even like a calm barge, Like it was an obnoxious barge noise and it didn't stop. Like, it went for the whole song. It was like in between the dolphin noises and the ocean noises, there was like this, this toning of this barge. It's like every min…like every 30 seconds there was this barge noise and I was like, and, never again. And that was the only that was the only song in that CD that was obnoxious. And it was like right there in the center. And I was like, okay, maybe I can work with this. That could be the point where we flip. But it was the whole song, so it was like, it does not take somebody 5 minutes to flip. So 

Tammy: yeah, that kind of messed up. The whole thing, didn't it? 

Jenn: Yes, but again, it was just a tone and I did not like. 

Tammy: So I know Tones. Well, we'll talk about that at some point too. But when it comes to like frequencies and stuff, I know you do a lot of sound healing in your work. Do you ever use specific frequencies for specific types of work that you do? 

Jenn: So I've used I've used tuning forks a little bit, and there are certain, certain notes and certain vibrations that you use for specific areas of the body. Acupuncturists, a lot of the time will use a very specific frequency tuning fork when they're working with specific points. So I have, I have a couple of tuning forks that I've used during sessions, but I don't, I don't have enough knowledge to use specific frequencies for specific things. That's, that's not something that I kind of dove into headfirst. I do what is feeling right to me at the time, and I'm usually drawn to specific singing bowls or specific drums, different tones of the drums or vibrations of whatever instrument happens to be there. But I don't know, I don't know the specific frequencies that I'm using when I'm using them. 

Tammy: Okay. 

Jenn: I haven't learned that yet. I haven't taken the time to.

Tammy: It is kind of interesting. When you listen to some of those playlists and stuff, there is ones that you can actually like pick out the frequency really clearly, even if others are playing. Yeah, it's kind of fascinating. 

Jenn: Yeah. So a while back I was talking to somebody who was like, You can't hear the difference between this frequency and this frequency. You can't tell the difference between these Hertz and this hertz and blah, blah, blah. And so we got into this kind of, this little argument about it, and it was like very minimal change in the sound and the frequency that was coming through. And I was like, I can guarantee that I will pick out that change. And they would play it and I could, I couldn't hear the change, but I could feel the change in my body. And I was like, that one, I don't like it, don't do it. And it was like the slightly lower vibration one just hit me the wrong way. Like it was. It was like an off note in a, in when somebody is playing music and they hit the wrong note or they hit a sharp and like it's just slightly off. That's what it felt like to me. And it was like argument done, ten in a row. Like I knew immediately because it just felt off in my body. And they're like, Oh, I guess you can tell the difference. And I'm like, Yeah, I'm pretty sure you could tell the difference to you just don't want to admit it. 

Tammy: Yeah, I think if people actually were I mean, I do think you really need to, like, take a moment and allow yourself to just be with it so you're not like, overthinking it. I bet everybody would be able to tell a difference and 

Jenn: Oh yeah

Tammy: certain. I mean, it's kind of the same reason why certain songs appeal to us and others don't. So tones of voice that people have when they're singing appeal and others don't like. It's all it all makes sense with what we already know.

Jenn: Yeah, yeah. 

Tammy: There has been moments where I distinctly like, heard a specific like I might not have paid attention to it in the beginning, but then all of a sudden I was like, wow, that's a really like loud sound to me right now. And not a bad sound, but a loud one. But. I mean, I imagine that something that was probably very scientifically back too. Right? Because that's, there's a measurable, like Hertz measurable way of testing and verifying certain frequencies, and certain frequencies can do different things. They can even, you know, move things or expand things or contract things in so that that totally makes sense. 

Jenn: Yeah. Somebody told me a long time ago that there are certain bands that, bands that have lasted for a long period of time, like the Beatles, for instance. Their music is done in a very specific frequency that keeps us in a state of joy or higher. And because of that, it allows us to listen to it for longer periods of time where there's other bands that don't stay within that range, or they have songs that are all over the board as far as what, what frequencies they're using. And so our, our emotions go from here down and then back up and then down. And so it's this emotional roller coaster

Tammy: So it’s harder.

Jenn: for us energetically. So it's harder for us to listen to that over longer periods of time. So the person that I was talking to was talking about one hit wonders and how sometimes it's because their, their music doesn't stay within those frequencies that allows us to stay in a state of joy. So because our emotions and our body is feeling this drastic shift all the time, we just can't. We just can't stay listening to that. 

Tammy: It's exhausting even though we don't know it. 

Jenn: Yeah, Yeah. And so I don't remember the person I was talking to. He said that they actually had studied some of the major bands that had stayed like in mainstream for a long period of time, and they looked at the frequencies that they used in the majority of their songs. 

And it was, it was the frequency of joy or higher for most of their songs. And then the bands that did not last for very long or they were they were popular for a short period of time, and then they just fell off. They looked at those songs and they were lower vibrational. And I don't know the full truth around that. I know that I looked at some of the information about the Beatles when we were talking about that, but I didn't look at a whole bunch of other bands, but it would make sense to me that 

Tammy: it would. 

Jenn: If you're keeping people at a joyful state, that would yeah, that would make sense that they'd want to listen to it.

Tammy: Yeah, exactly. Because we all know what it feels like to have those angsty songs to write that you only listen to. You're in a mood. And 

Jenn: exactly. 

Tammy: It's like even more intense and you're just like, 

Jenn: Yeah. Have you ever gone back and listened to the music that you listened to when you were younger? And just like a thought about, this makes so much sense why I was listening to this, because it resonates so much with the emotions that you're feeling and like it almost it draws the energy out so that you can express it more freely. That's that's how I feel about it. There are some times I listen to songs that I'm like, oh, this is my crying song. Like, this is the song that will make me cry immediately because it forces me to look at my junk. Yeah. 

Tammy: Yep. Being a person who's teen years was squarely in the nineties, there was certainly a lot of like angsty alternative stuff that I would listen to sometimes. It wasn't all like that. I listened to a wide variety of music, but there are certainly ones I go back and listen to them like, Yep, I remember having like my teenage moment in my room and listening to that song on repeat on full blast in my room and just being like, Uuugh, life is so hard, know Those teenage things that we all have. 

Jenn: See! You should go back and figure out what the, what frequency those songs should now and see like where that falls on the levels of…

Tammy: I should. I absolutely should. I bet there there is some correlation there because there are yeah there's certainly ones that I know I was in a mood when I listened to it, but you know, like you said, though, it wasn't necessarily a bad thing. It like helped me get all that stuff out of me, but it certainly didn't make me happier at the moment. It just helped me express some emotion. 

Jenn: No. You know, every once in a while we will listen to in the car. My fiance and I are not that many years apart, but and we listen to the same music when we were younger. So we'll listen to songs in the car. And both of us will be belting out the song. And you can see sometimes both of us are like, oh yeah, this song was during that time. You can just tell both of us are like, oh yeah, I remember this. 

Tammy: But you know, I feel like that's kind of like this whole conversation we're having. It's fun to look back sometimes to go, Oh yeah, I remember all that. I remember this feeling at that time and see how different things are, because there's still, there's still quite a bit of music that I love, but I always listen to like all different eras and types of music. And there's some things like that might be considered kind of, I don't know, if people that aren't really familiar with it, like, like Billie Holiday on, on a record. The scratching is adds to it. Some people might be like, that's kind of like depressing. But it was never depressing for me. It was always like, there's just something like beautiful and soulful and even if she was talking about things that were kind of heavy, there was just such like emotion behind her voice where it's just I don't know, like there's things that maybe because different frequencies can affect you differently, but maybe, you know, if you're attracted to a certain frequency at the time that something that is offering you some type of value. But there's a lot of different stuff that I listen to that doesn't necessarily make me feel like depressed or anything, but there is certainly something that I'm like, Yep, I remember. 

Jenn: Yeah, well, that's an interesting thing. Talking about the records and the scratchy ness because I was talking to a recording engineer one day and he was talking to me about how old recordings maintain their sound and their clarity and their frequency better than digital recordings do, because digital recordings are compressed, so it changes the components of the music. 

Tammy: Interesting. 

Jenn: We'd have to have somebody come on and explain exactly how that works, but like, it's completely different. And you can tell when you listen to an old record, I've actually after we had that conversation, I went back and listened because I know some people who have record players. And so I went back and I listened to some records and then listened to the same music on like digital format now, felt and sounded so different. 

Tammy: I do not know that I remastered old music most of the time, like I really like, and I always just thought it was because of it was what was more familiar to me. Like I didn't like that changed, but that probably is more what it's like. Like there was a certain emotion and thing that was like put out there in that original recording that gets changed. 

Jenn: Yeah, the compression changes things. 

Tammy: Interesting. Yeah, I I've always loved record players. I'm still a little salty that my parents got rid of theirs a long time ago and I ended up having to re-acquire a bunch of records. But there's just certain things that I just love listening to on my record player. Harry Belafonte is another one that I absolutely love. You want good high vibration music? Put Harry Belafonte on, on record while you're cleaning and you're going to get so much stuff done even though you're dancing the whole time. It’s amazing. 

Jenn: Now I'm going to have to go And like, Who is that again? Who is that? Like tell me 

Tammy: He is, Day O is the big one. 

Jenn: OH, okay. Thank you. I was like, I know this name. Who is? I'm horrible. If you tell me the name of a band or the name of a person, I'll be like, Oh, I have heard of that person, but I could not for the life of me tell you what they sing, what songs they had. 

Tammy: Yes. I just, he was he as a human was just a wonderful human being in general. He's had an amazing career, but also was just a wonderful, wonderfully kind and caring human being. But every single one of his songs, I just can't help but like, get into. 

Jenn: Now I'm going to have to put it on my playlist for cleaning.

Tammy: You totally should. Everybody should listen to him while they're cleaning. And I promise you, you have so much more fun. 

Jenn: I'm writing it down, Tammy. 

Tammy: Good. 

Jenn: So what I want to hear from our listeners this week, I want to listen to all of the songs that you listen to in your teenage years. I want to know of a song that brings you back to the different emotions, like the songs that are the frequency that helped you get in touch with, that angsty ness, and then the song that you listen to when you just want to get pumped up. Like sometimes, 

Tammy: I’ll start out your angsty list. for one of my own. 

Jenn: Yes. 

Tammy: Zombie from The Cranberries. 

Jenn: That is one of the songs that we belt out together. 

Tammy: It's just like a good purging all of the angsty inside of you. 

Jenn: Nice. Yeah, nice. I tend to go to Pantera songs like I was a heavy metal girl, and so I tend to go to Pantera some of the more really screamy things that nobody will know anything about. 

Pantera is more mild compared to some of the other things. But then when I want to get like super happy, I play lots of weird things, but the song Happy really makes me happy and that's because, “you know, I'm happy” that song. 

Tammy: That’s a good one. 

Jenn: Yes, I love that song. And it brings me back to different events that it had been played at around that time and like how fun and how everybody got into it. There's a lot of songs that I’ll play, but I really I really do want to see the contrast and see like what people listen to, to put themselves in different moods because it's just kind of fun. 

Tammy: It is fun! 

Jenn: Post it you guys. I want to, I want to hear it. 

Tammy: That's your mission. If you cannot post it

Jenn: mission impossible

Tammy: In the comments, you can always send us an email or go to our social media, but we want to hear all of your stuff.

Jenn: YAY! 

Tammy: Well, this is a lot of fun to talk about. It was we didn't quite know the direction it was going, but it went a lot of fun places. 

Jenn: Yeah, cool.

Tammy: Thanks for listening, everybody. 

Jenn: Yep. We will see you next week. Bye!

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